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I was reading somewhere that transvestites are offended by the term trannys, but when you read postings here made by TV's they will often refer to themselves as trannys trannies

So what do you like to know as

transvestite
tranny
trannies
tvs

just interested, ta .....img src="imagesadultemoticons008.gif"

WTF

sorry but WTF? I would have preferred feedback from TVS than some dick photo..

WTF indeed!

Well personally I initially started referring to myself as a CD, but am now favouring Tgirl.
Not sure why, but don't really care for the terms tranny or transvestite. Maybe it just makes me think of the Rocky Horror Picture Show. Nothing wrong with lingerie, but I generally don't spend my Tgirl time dressed that way (or at least I have a dress or outfit over the top). xx

thanks Roslyn

nice to hear back from a "tgirl" rather than a dick...img src="imagesadultemoticons010.gif"

so would you say CD normally implies lingerie guys where as tgirl is more fuller dressed males?

The article I was reading albeit American, did get a lot of heated views from the tvtscd community and I didn't recall many referring themselves as tgirls for most it was transvestite - maybe tgirl is more a UK term ??

Tv CD Tgirl Transgender Transvestite?

I should emphasize that I'm quite the newbie and can only speak from my short experience.
If I have to use a label I just feel more at lease with using Tgirl to describe myself

As you rightly point out, this is an area that can evoke quite passionate responses (and I don't want to have to go into hiding again) Lol.

I personally feel confused about the terms Tv, CD, Tgirl, Transgender, Transvestite.

The different distinctions seem unclear. For example, how far to you go before a panty-wearer becomes a lingerie dresser, who then becomes a CD?

Then there is the element of partial over full dressing. Personally for me it's all or nothing. I don't feel at all fem until I have my hair and make-up in place.

xx

confused about TVTSCD

your confused, glad I'm not the only one - I've always referred to transvestites as trannys but it seems some thing this is insulting...I suppose it depends to what level you dress and whether its just a sexual thing or a lifestyle

So maybe if its just sex trannys transvestitesTVs is ok

but lifestyle choice ( with some playing on the side) tgirls transvestites?

I think the other problem is whilst we don't want to be labeled, we all carry one whether its straight, bi, crossdressers, tgirls ...

So, where do transgender come into play img src="imagesadultemoticons017.gif"

Let's be confused together - girls help me out here?

I understood that transgender was a blanket term to cover all the different flavours of transexual, crossdresser, transvestite, androgyne (according to my COGIATI test results that's me), and any others I've missed.

Clear? No me neither. Lol

xx

girls or gurls

now did you mean girls or gurls img src="imagesadultemoticons017.gif"

I know how to resolve this question.

What we need is for someone to post another willy pic. That should clarify everything for us. Lol.

My 2 bob's worth

I have a very close friend with whom I correspond, and she is in Tennessee, and is a 24 hr Tgirl (her description). In our several years of emails and chats the following very loose set of definitions has emerged - there are lots of loose ends and I will not attempt to redefine anything. But these are the ways that she has led me to interpret the terms

CD is someone who dresses really as a hobby - albeit ia serious and probably sexual hobby. The CD is probably very content as a man but seeks gratification on a temporary basis as a CD.

TV is a more committed CD in that they find that they need (need is a very important word) to cross dress - for the TV it is much less of a hobby but more of an intrinsic need to take part in an element of femininity.

TS is a wholly different person - she is a woman inside a man's body and wants to find her true self but for many real and proper reasons is not ready to change at this time

TG – TransGender – is totally committed and wants to complete the whole evolution to her real self and is dedicated to getting there. She is a real woman in all respects but the organs, but that will change.

Personally I don’t like the terms tranny, shemale, gurl etc and I never address my friends using those terms – in my eyes, indeed in my heart, they are women or ladies, and they should be respected for that. I do use the terms of course, in my male life (and I regard that as a weakness) but I sincerely empathise with the community and I get very irritated when the immature get into chat and start winding up my friends.
The term TGirl is a good (and popular) generic term which I feel manages to avoid the difficulties of the need for specification of the CDTVTSTG terms and adequately conveys the femininity of the woman using it (as Roslyn does above). I like that term , while I still prefer to use woman or lady or girl as being my attempt to be as respectful as possible.
Well you have had more than 2 bob’s worth now, but if I have confused things further, just ask for my private media and I will show you an unimpressive willy pic -- lol
(If this post comes out twice it is yet another step in my attempt to achieve the Booker Prize for inept comment posting. I posted but I thought it didn’t seem to go right. So I have reposted with some changes where I forgot the previous words)
Hugs and Kisses
Jerry xxx

Very well constructed Jerry

But you could have saved yourself the effort and time if you had just posted a willy pic like the earlier "contributor". Things would have been much clearer then. Lol

Thanks hun. xxx

whatever makes you happy

Eddie (my hero) Izzard the other night told some african women who asked why he wore nail varnish, that he was both, a man and a woman inside (his head).
I feel myself to be both Chris and Christina, without the need to go to an analyst, either, lol.
If I wanted to be labeled, I'd want to be regarded firstly as a human being with all the feeling and failings that we all enjoy and suffer.
Then subsequently as either male or female or a combination of both.
In some situations I feel male,with all the attributes associated, but in others my feminine side takes over, and I am a girl, yes with an i not a u thanks.
What I do have trouble with, is not the labeling, that's just sticks and stones after all, and not important.
No what pisses me off, and I know many other girls too, is a lack of respect towards my sexuality, my choices, typified by the dick photo contributor earlier.
Lastly, mr administrator, your system demands of all of us here that we label ourselves, in our profiles, our personal details etc.
Well I label myself proudly as a sexual human being, anything more is irrelevant and just frippery.
Whatever make you happy and whatever turns you on.....Hmmmmmmm

lotsa love to all fellow humans,
you know who you are, and what you are,
XXChristinaFranceXx

Thx Christina - much more interesting than a "dick" photo.

Nice and heartfelt post Christina.

Whilst I don't care particularly for labels, I appreciate that the original poster was trying to establish what is acceptable with the best of intentions. Many don't even try.

At least if I describe myself as a bi tgirl people know what they are getting (so to speak). The more annoying aspect of the site (and all the rest just to be clear) is guys not understanding the terms "NO MEN PLEASE" or online status "BUSY", or "NOT LOOKING FOR PRIVATE CHAT". Now that is frustrating.

Roslyn (de France aussi des fois). xx
sergio46

RE:Thx Christina - much more interesting than a "dick" photo.

Im on gisborne nz ..
saoirse1234

what's in a name

Hi all,
sorry I'm late to this and missed all the pics img src="imagesadultemoticons001.gif" .

I'm certainly no expert and have only identified myself as tg for a few years although it dates back to early childhood. I still struggle with the terminology and that is partly due to the same terms being used in lots of different ways by different people, etc. A post-op TS recently told me that the only term she accepts is 'human' and whilst I agree with her people nonetheless do like to label as it can make a rather complicated world easier to 'understand'. So for what it's worth my understanding of the various terms is:

TS - pre or post, someone who undergoesunderwent gender reassignment and who iswas gender dysphoric with regard to the biological sex they were born as.
TV - someone who may be gender dysphoric and who prefers to dress and pass as the 'other' to their biological sex.
CD - someone who likes to dress in clothes 'other' to their biological sex. They may get sexually aroused by dressing. They may not be gender dysphoric.

(As far as I can I'm trying not to use absolute terms as everyone is different and so what constitutes a boundary for one may not for others.)

I identify myself as a TV as I don't get sexual excitement from dressing. In many ways it's almost the opposite as having to dress in drabmale often leaves me deeply unhappy. When dressed en femme I wantneed to pass as femme and that includes other issues such as body language, speech, deportment as well as clothes. 'Tucking' and wearing a gaff etc also means that dressing, at least for me, doesn't easily equate with sexual arousal; it's just too uncomfortable! Even when I'm in drabmale mode I still have some femme 'visual pointers'; I have long nails, shoulder length hair and so on.

As to tgs using the word trannie to describe ourselves... Perhaps there is an issue of recuperation here to take the sting out of the word when it is only used by others as a term of abuse?

Love,
Saoirse
CandiceM

RE:My 2 bob's worth

I'm with you on not liking terms like shemale and tranny. I prefer to be called Candice : )

I'm not a fan of labels really. I'm not just a CD (not that it's wrong to be a CD). I am full time and not for sexual reasons, so I don't feel TV is a term for me either. I'm on an herbal hormone routine, but I'm not doing it the "official" way. So, I'm somewhere between t-girl and TS. I'll accept the t-girl label if you must.

The labels are interesting though. I see Tranny and Shemale as porn terms, again no offense to those girls. Who am I to judge another person's transition? Some girls are greatly offended by those terms, and I can't blame them for that either.
taraharding69

RE:transvestites, trannys, tv s ?

I have been a transvestite for some time now and I love people calling me a tranny ,trannie dont have problem with it xx tara