when attending a bdsm todo in seattle a few years back, I had someone try to order MY sub. I calmly stepped over and told her she didn't need to listen to lame pretenders. HE got pissed and told me, "shes sub, and I can do what I want." I still held my temper, and told him, "she may be sub, BUT she's MY sub, so let it be" and he had too much drink or too little sense to know that I was getting angry, and reached for MY SUB, which instantly started a fight, getting us both thrown out of the gathering. So, when at a club or other todo, leave others subs alone. Many of us have nasty tempers and will back those with extreme violence, just because she's a sub does not mean she's your sub or public property. I have always defended my submissive, and tell them 'Be polite. when it's time to be less than polite I'll be as rude and nasty as needed'. So don't be an ass. every sub is someone elses, until you're told different. and they are still capable of saying NO. and have the right to.