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ARE PEOPLE ESCAPING FROM REALITY?

8:33 am Friday, 1st May, 2015

Now, this blog has taken me very long to be written. To find the right words to try to explain something I have seen and noticed day by day in the site is not an easy task.

I call these people 'the dreamers' 'the unconfident' 'the ones who do not dare'. This blog is not about the timewasters, fake people, or even 'key warriors'. This is about a certain type of individuals in the site (and I am sure in the online world) who do exist, who do have dreams, who do have a face, who do have a personality but when reality hits them, they would never dare to go forward and meet.

I have asked around and I have noticed them too. They like to write many things in chartrooms, they really think they can achieve the desired goal to meet someone, they cam, they chat, they exchange pictures. These people really do exist. They even arrange meetings and when it is close, they realize they are not as brave as they thought, they could not live up to expectations, or that they could not just do it.

Have you ever encountered people like this? Do you have a theory about why these people come here but they would never meet you? I am very interested in getting as many responses.



Comments
8:56 am Friday, 1st May, 2015

Hello Free, I do simply call these kind of people cowards

9:37 am Friday, 1st May, 2015

I think there may be more than one type of person involved here. There are both singles and couples who may want the extra thrill of camming or chatting with others about things they fantasise about - but would never want to do in real life (maybe something as simple as swapping, maybe the 'kinkier' side like WS or fetish). There are also people - not just in sexual things - who dream of doing something (starting their own business, meeting for sex or anything a little scary) but when it comes down to it, it is one step too far.
I wouldn't call these people cowards - just normal cautious people with dreams.

10:16 am Friday, 1st May, 2015

Don't imagine i'm going to be popular after i share my opinion.
I'm finding people are members of sites such as this for such wide and varied reasons. In truth i have only met two people in the flesh so far and only one of those meets went to plan the other didn't go to well as he wasn't as he claimed to be. But still i think it isn't really for others to question why anyone becomes a member as it isn't really anyone but their business.
You may also find that some you think are not meeting are in fact meeting, it's just that they don't feel the need to make their personal life public knowledge, everyone is entitled to have a 'private life' after all and maybe some should just concentrate on what they are doing rather than spending time watching or observing never mind speculating what others are or are not getting up to. Hmm or then again maybe they are a new breed of voueur, just a thought as i'm normally too busy getting to know other people to watch what others are getting up to added to the fact i don't really care as that's their business.

Another thought that just entered my mind....maybe some are just too polite to say 'sorry you are just not my type' and continue chatting as they don't want to be rude or hurt anyone's feelings by being as bold as to say they are not interested in meeting as they have interests in another person. As i said just a thoughttheory img src="imagesadultemoticons021.gif"

10:52 am Friday, 1st May, 2015

Sorry that was meant to be * new breed or Voyeur.

11:17 am Friday, 1st May, 2015

...hmmm...I think perhaps, these people are maybe just very low in confidence. Its easy to be brave when texting, messaging, emailing etc...you're anonymous, your brainmind can and will make you feel confident. But when 'reality' starts to get closer their mind then starts to play on the negative bits about themselves or their bodies etc etc and then the confidence they had just goes....sadly....and they end up not meeting etc. Thanks for reading, Phil x x

1:54 pm Friday, 1st May, 2015

My Dear Cleo.
1. Here is the kiss we usually exchange every day XXXXX
2. Do not over-concern yourself about how you choose your words, your command of the English language is far superior to many native speakers on here.
3.The personnas I adopt from time to time are only intended to amuse. don't think that many really believe that I am. Hitler, The Pope,Napoleon, Attila the Bun, Chester Droors or a funny French policeman.
4. There is absolutely nothing for anyone to fear from meeting people from here. I can honestly say that every single person I have had the pleasure to meet has been an absolute delight !
5. When I finally get back to the UK,I'm looking to meeting many more,including yourself ,if you're back from the Orient.
xxxxxxx

2:07 pm Friday, 1st May, 2015

Everyone has the right to change their mind. When first chatting two people may think they would like to take things to the next stage but as time goes on and they get to know one and other a little better that differences in what they wantneed or even expect become more apparent so they make the decision that meeting would not be for the best. That happens in the real world all the time so i wouldn't imagine the 'virtual world' is any different.

I have to say i am now only here to chat with people i have got to know and become friends with as my situation has changed, but i don't think i have any less right to use the site in the way i choose to make use of this platform than hardened swingers. I feel that chatting to anyone doesn't mean it will lead to a meet and it may serve some well to remember just because they feel an attraction to someone that those feelings may not be reciprocated as they may only ever wish to be friends of the non meet type. Chatting is Chatting , meeting is a whole different ball game (no pun intended) So best not to read too much into any situation until youthey actually meet face to face and decide it things will progress to anything other than 'friends'.

6:51 pm Friday, 1st May, 2015

Darling Free :)

Thanks for the new blog!!!!

My opinions:

I'm thinking this over and have a lot to say on the subject.....I think:

People are all here for their own reasons, and as always, who are we to judge if they are right or wrong?

Some find that simply logging on to this site is an immense thrill; others find a thrill in chat or cam only...or meeting for drinks...or for sex....or for WILD sex (however they define it). Are any of these wrong reasons to be here? Not at all....it's just that they don't all coincide with every one else's reason to be here (or judgements for who should be here or who should not).

I, myself, have been called the dreamer, time waster, etc, for not meeting.....I guess those people don't realize, (as mentioned above) that I like to be private in who, when, where, and for what I meet. Also....just because I chat with most doesn't mean I am willing to meet most.

The only ones I have a hard time not judging are those who claim to be intimately interested for a lengthy period of time...and then disappear.

I have a good friend on here who may fall into the "dreamer" category. He chats, he flirts...but doesn't meet. Does this make him into one of those negative people who exist to get our hopes up only to dash them? Ii don't think so. I take him as he comes, love the fact that we talk regularly, and have learned to expect no more. I think it's all in the expectations we set up for someone, as to what we choose to call them. I like the word "friend" better than "time waster."

10:25 pm Friday, 1st May, 2015

I love all the replies guys! I brought the topic not in a way of criticism as such but more as a way to explain many things to all the readers and maybe to let many people express their feelings.

I have to add I was not refering at all about the people who just come here to have friendly chats. I was more pointing at people who come with the desire to meet but they never do for the reasons you have all mentioned....

I have to confess many of the replies have made me realize many different sides of the story. However, I do agree with Psavour, I only worry that some do take the dreams to far to actually want a meet and never make it.

5:42 am Saturday, 2nd May, 2015

Sometimes all it takes is making one right connection to get the self image and confidence levels back up. I met one woman from a completely different site. Travelled to see me yet also too see her friends in this city (and that's the key to enjoying travel in confidence - never make it about seeing the person, always about seeing the place) and the way we clicked and treated one another brought a lot of peace of mind and totally brought to a conclusion a long chapter in my life. Never met anyone on this site yet, not too active. But I try and keep it purely to calls and in person nowadays. I couldn't go back to the text life myself, it's a matter of feeling alive and survival.

6:14 am Saturday, 2nd May, 2015

LIbraman: Thanks for your reply and welcome to the land of blogs. Your comments are indeed thoughtful :)img src="imagesadultemoticons001.gif"

6:26 am Saturday, 2nd May, 2015

Grazie :) looking at your profile it's a small world. We're both fluent in French. You're going to Italy. Before I moved back to the UK I lived in Italy. The woman I met came over from Shanghai. Synergy is everywhere I look.

2:52 pm Sunday, 3rd May, 2015

This is such a good question! Yes, who are 'dreamers'? While such people are no doubt frustrating to those who are in for the real action, I appreciate them. Fantasy is a wonderful thing: it lets us all live out 'as-if' realities we can't really bare to experience, it lets us do things we'd never do in real life. In fantasy we can taste the excitement, without really swallowing. Does this make them cowards? Perhaps with some, but I suspect for many it has nothing to do with cowardice.

The online world must encourage this way. People can interact while remaining unseen. They can pretend. So the internet is filled with such things. People play video games and temporarily experience themselves as heroes or villeins. They can swing. Yes, but it's not real. Fantasy becomes a substitute for reality.

4:00 pm Sunday, 3rd May, 2015

Can't help but say this subject topic has left a bit of a bad taste in my mouth.. As i really don't think anyone regadless of who they are or why they are on this site have the right to question others motives. NO ONE has the right to judge never mind question others reasons for being here. If they don't wish to meet they don't, it's as simple as that!
In that case move on and find someone else and leave others to go about doing what makes them happy. Isn't being happy what we all want? So if charttingflirting makes some happy, that's great, well in my opinion it is as i like other people to be happy as i'm not as selfish as to think that i should be the only person that is happy in life.

I just hop the chattingflirtting only people that some refer to have not been upset and made to feel they have less rights to be here than someone that 'meet' on a regular basis. Maybe Chatting is all some want, that is their right! I for one don't know of any rule that says you have to meet, but if you don't 'meet' then they shouldn't be making use of this plattform.
Everyone has different things that float their boat after all!

4:23 pm Sunday, 3rd May, 2015

Well said BBUK! Though i hope you hope rather than hop that no offence has been taken by people who only 'choose' to chat or flirt lol :-P xxx

I hate anyone trying to place people into any certain category as who gave anyone the right to play judge and jury on what others do or don't choose to do. Don't know why some people are so concerned about what others do, as you said in your pervious post maybe they would be better served concentrating on what they do than what other people are or are not doing as may be the case.

4:49 pm Sunday, 3rd May, 2015

It is almost midnight in Beijing and I did feel compelled to reply the last comments. I truly think that one of the best features of this website is the diversity. I have never found so many different people in just one place. Every single person (including me) have come here for different reasons and I am sure each of us is trying hard to make himself or herself happy. One of the things I have always claimed and proclaimed is that every one deserves happiness as long as they don't hurt anyone and they are honest. This is why I come back again and again to this place. People welcome you mostly and share.

On the other hand, people who really know me will vouch that I tend to write blogs that will bring controversy in a way but also will make people think about many different issues. This as some of the other blogs I have written are not meant to judge anyone. I may not like some replies but I would never ask anyone not to write what they feel or think. I truly think that they only way for people to realize that maybe what they think it is not fair and to see different sides of the story. Thus, I don't feel people are judging but expressing what they feel or their opinions (even if I don't agree with them). At the end when they finish reading all the comments they may change their views for the better.

Thanks everyone again for the replies.
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5:25 pm Sunday, 3rd May, 2015

'I call these people people 'the dreamers' 'the unconfident' 'the ones who do not dare'

Sorry FFP but that comes across as a judgement, will say it also 'reads' that you have placed 'some' into certain categories as you see it.
Yes i agree that a degree of controversy is often a good thing on the blogs but as always everyone has their own opionin and may read things in a different way from which the 'writer' was hoping that they would. Glad to hear you are open to othersall posting their opinionsthoughts as what would be the point of posting blogs if the only comments welcome were one's which agreed with the 'OP's' opinionsthoughts. xx.

5:33 pm Sunday, 3rd May, 2015

Agreed MrHappy. I suppose I shud apologize if I came across as judgmental. I am not the kind of person who is afraid of saying sorry if required. I am also learning after all. img src="imagesadultemoticons001.gif"

7:44 pm Sunday, 3rd May, 2015

I have to point out, too, that there is a big difference between people who don't meet and are here to chat only and people who say they'll meet but don't admit to anyone (often even themselves, I think?) that they never will.

8:09 pm Sunday, 3rd May, 2015

You see that is where freedom of choice comes into play as it's any given persons right to choose if they meet or if they don't, everyone is entitle to change their mind (hell according to men us women change our minds as often as we change our knickers lol).
I will also add again as i did in my first comment, it might be that people are meeting but don't feel the need to make that fact public knowledge. Or it could be that they don't wish to be rude by coming straight out and saying "NO, i don't want to meet you" (the word 'you' isn't aimed at any certain person). It may well be that they like chattingflirthing with someone but maybe just not enough to want to meet them, though they may well be meeting others. Just a theory.
After all everyone has a right to privacy and to have a private life, don't they?

8:19 pm Sunday, 3rd May, 2015

*entitled

9:04 pm Sunday, 3rd May, 2015

Of course they have the right to a private life. They even have the right to change their mind. What I find issue with is the ones who become intimately involved with someone over an extended period of time and then simply disappear, refuse to meet, etc.

If you haven't encountered one of this sort yet, count yourself lucky. They take you for a ride with promises and messages of...well, whatever. Then, after they've finished playing, they don't say goodbye...they simply say...."You are my world" one day, and cease to exist the next.

And yes, though not looking for it, many of the smart ones here have gone through this.

10:28 pm Sunday, 3rd May, 2015

Yes I understand. The example you just pointed out can do harm to others. There is a difference between stringing someone along into commitments that won't be lived up to, as opposed to harmless fun. It's as much true for the online world as it is the offline world.

5:46 am Monday, 4th May, 2015

Erotic: You have definitely got the best example of how people could hurt others here. I will not go into details as what happened to me but I was also a victim of one of these situations. I do agree everyone is entitled to make a free choice as long as both parties know clearly the final outcome. I do regret to say not everyone is straight. To be promised something and then vanish or to care about someone who suddenly disappears is something I do not wish to anyone here.

Therefore, yes to freedom of speech or not speech, right to privacy and the right to use your own criteria to make your decision decision if you meet or not someone. However, always be straight to say it. It is better to know in advance even if it hurts than to be stood up, or left wondering what you did wrong.

2:51 pm Monday, 4th May, 2015

Had been trying to hold my whisht but can't, so.......
Personally i would 'never count my chickens until they had hatched', as in, i would never lower my guard until i had met the person face to face and knew for a fact that both parties were on the same page, till that meeting you are after all only a 'virtual friend'. No matter how much chatting be that on site or off site or by any other means that you have had, you won't know for sure how things will pan out till you meet in person. I find it best not to get 'too involved' until a connection has been made in the true sensereal world rather than only in a 'virtual' sense', where as in the flesh it could be a whole different matter.......
Would say more but shall refrain from adding fuel to the fire, also as i have friends that are 'only' here to chat, who may choose or may not choose to make that public knowledge, which in my opinion is their right!
Sorry if that offends anyone but that's my thoughts on the matter.

10:29 am Tuesday, 5th May, 2015

Don't think it's a case of 'refusing' to meet it's that they 'choose' not to meet. Freedom of choice is something that many great people have fought and campaigned for each and every person to have for year's. I kind of wonder it the campaignes have been 'missed' by some on this site, as it comes across that some are missing the point that everyone has the right to make their own decisions. Doesn't matter how much 'one' person wants to meet another if that isn't a shared feeling that it just ain't going to happen.Best they can do is accept it and move on, me personally, i tend to accept people for whowhat they are and i'm grateful for their friendship, even if it's only after a length of time chatting that i find out 'they' don't want to meet, as i respect that is their choice and right.
Meeting isn't after all compulsoryobligatory.

Psavour, that is a valid point! Though slightly off on a tangent from the original subject as it's not about people who have arranged meets then just simply not turning up, it's about those who chatcam but don't 'choose' to meet and don't carry a placard or have it tattooed across their forehead or maybe some expect people that are only here to chat to 'come with a gorvernment heath warning' that they don't meet, hell did i miss the notice that states you must state in advance or from the get go that you won'tdon't meet? xx

11:38 am Tuesday, 5th May, 2015

I think some people also get cold feet before a meet, when the realisation has set in that they are actually going to meet up with the person or couple they have been talking to.

The fact that they may actually have to take their clothes off and prove all those claims of being a god between the sheets and boasting about the size of their man hood can make some people run for the hills (queue Iron Maiden track).

It can be quite frustrating and annoying for people who are on the receiving end of people who don't show and will make them very cautious about meeting up again. Which is why I think a valid reason or apology is appropriate (as mentioned by sensualself).

Personally I don't tend to dwell on it too much, provided I haven't just driven 4 hours and booked a hotel. Maybe because I am a bit more picky about who I meet up or because I spend a little bit more time getting to know the people I meet.

11:43 am Tuesday, 5th May, 2015

I am going back to Psavours comment, at the end of the day - yes each of us has our own choice and can meet or not meet, declare or not - BUT - common decency and good manners still demand that you either tell the person you are supposed to be meeting in advance or at least apologise immediately afterwards. I have more than once travelled up to 250 mile round trip to meet someone - I would have been more than a little annoyed had they not let m know they had no intention of meeting - surely an apology at least would be in order. If someone doesn't wish to meet - then why are they making the arrangements? No need to say "I don't want to meet" if they don't want to - there are a million excuses for not meeting - use one of those.

11:53 am Tuesday, 5th May, 2015

Bmale and Hull: You definitely got my support there. Freedom does not mean you can do anything you want. I am sorry for those people who think that is correct. Politeness and courtesy are free. img src="imagesadultemoticons001.gif"

12:16 pm Tuesday, 5th May, 2015

I agree Bmale as manners cost nothing!
But i am one of 'the dreamers' that the OP wrote this blog about, as i'm only here to 'chat' though my profile 'Now' states just that so my placard is up for all to see.

I did meet with a couple of lovely ladies in the past, one of which i travelled quite some distance to share a wonderful weekend with (when she was working away from home), I would never have arranged to meet, then not turn up. If something had happened that would have meant i couldn't meet as we had planned i would have contacted them to explain and also apologize. Though they happen to be a friend from the 'real world' who just happened to also be a site member so i knew we were on the same page as we had met many times as 'friends only' in the flesh, then both made the choice to take things to the next level.

I think the blog has inevitably gone off topic BBuk, but thanks for restoring my faith that at least 'some' understand. Had a good laugh at your tongue in cheek suggestion that some would feelthink that us 'chattersdreamers should 'come with a government health warning' :-) xxx

12:29 pm Tuesday, 5th May, 2015

MrHappy: I am not sure we are on the same page now. I have never refered to people who just come here to chat with friends as I do that many times too. I think u shud read above when I did clarify that.

And of course blogs go offtopic....That is the way they always go...But it is part of its charm :).

12:51 pm Tuesday, 5th May, 2015

I would never and have never suggest that 'Manners' and 'Common decency' should never be givenshown when people have arranged or have firm plans to meet, but I was referring to the OPs original post about when comnunicating by chatcam. If a meet has been agreed than an apology should be given if that meet for what ever reason can't go ahead. But where 'NO DEFINITE meet has been arranged the twp people are only and merely 'chatting' so why would anyone have to be required to apologize for the fact they only wish to chat and not meet?

As it seems the OP only wants or is happy with postscomments that are or the sort they want to hereread or more so agree with the OPs poinions i will leave the subjet for the OP to enjoy a one sided blog. Have a good day.

12:56 pm Tuesday, 5th May, 2015

NB: In reality every coin has two sides as does every storydiscussiondebate... Or am i wrong?

3:17 pm Tuesday, 5th May, 2015

I think we all have spells of 'selective hearing' now and then, but have to say i've never heard of selective 'blogging'! I've always thought that blogs posted were for 'ALL' to comment on not just a group of 'select 'people or people with only certain views, so Nope BB i don't think you are wrong in your train of thought. :-) x

4:40 pm Tuesday, 5th May, 2015

Bigburd, maybe our reading of the original post differs - I am looking at "These people really do exist. They even arrange meetings " as being the point in this - if you don't arrange a meeting then there is no need to apologise. Of course there is the point of "leading someone on" - if you indicate that you are willing to meet and that you have strong feelings for them - with no actual intention to meet - then all I can say is that this is a very cruel way to treat peoples feelings.

5:34 pm Tuesday, 5th May, 2015

very very very well said, psavour and bmale.

Mr Happy--I don't get the idea whatsover that you are the point of this blog....unless, of course, you have led someone to believe you wanted one thing and then did the complete opposite? Without a word of explanation????

BigBurd--just doesn't seem to get the point. End of.

The point of this site is to find like minded people. So--find them! whatever you are looking for, whether it's chat only, sex chat or cam fun, meets for drinks, meets for long term fun, meets for one event.....we all all different and have our own agendas. I for one try to make it clear when I chat to someone what I do and don't like, will and won't do. I expect that honesty in return, and quite frankly, the "dreamers" Free referred to when writing this meet that criteria....saying and promising one thing and then NOT DOING IT. Whatever the hell it is!!!! THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH ANY OF OUR REASONS TO BE HERE.

But just remember....your freedom ends where mine begins.

6:28 pm Tuesday, 5th May, 2015

Don't think there is any need for any somewhat personal attacks on anyone just because they don't see things as you do. Each and everyone of us will read things or more so process things in a different manner therefore maybe forming a different opinion. Just because that opinion or more so in this case,the point they gathered isn't the same as yours doesn't make their opinion wrong or any less valid, it's just different for yours. If we all thought the same, felt the same or acted the same the world would be a very boring place indeed. Heck i for one am glad i'm an individual with independant thoughts as i wouldn't like to give up my own thoughtsfeelings or opinions for anything.

6:45 pm Tuesday, 5th May, 2015

Not intending to attack at all (if i'm the one you're referring to). I am actually a Very Nice person. But Free's (and other's) comments seem to have been misread over and over and over.....it's a bit frustrating.

6:58 pm Tuesday, 5th May, 2015

Maybe in the same way that both BBuk's and MrHappy's have been also been misread, as i said we all read things and process things differently. :-) x

10:49 pm Tuesday, 5th May, 2015

Heck you really don't want me to do a wee Scottish rant do you Psavour lol

10:48 am Wednesday, 6th May, 2015

The problem with this blog is that your making people feel like outsiders..... Them “the dreamers” and us “ the real people”! Your being dismissive, talking down to them !
“I call these people ‘the dreamers’ ...”........ I find this very patronizing as yes I might even consider myself to be one of those people. “Have you ever encountered them?” ..... Really???? You could get them to have a special section in their profile so they don’t waste others time! Have you ever considered that everyone on here has their own reasons in life to be here? Perhaps the “real people” have nice uncomplicated lives and don’t have any worries in life and are able to join in without a care in the world. Maybe “the dreamers” have not got that but given a decent shot in life would be equally as real!
How can you ever know what goes on in others lives? You cant call anyone a dreamer without knowing the facts! I guess that we all have dreams or you wouldnt have joined this site in the first place. All you seem to be implying is that there are 2 types of people here with 1 section being not as important or trustworthy as the other. You cant do that. Your building boundaries and creating division.
I got to admit im a bit less enthusiastic now having read that about a feeling of inclusion but it could be the blog was written to provoke reaction? Still going to persist here and see if my dreams do come true or are snuffed out.....

11:20 am Wednesday, 6th May, 2015

Welcome to the blogs Crazzyhorse.
Good for you Crazzy hope you find what you are looking for fella don't let anyone 'snuff out' your desire to find what you want, or cause you to give up on your dreams, as your dreams belong to you!
! I agree with many of your points, NO ONE likes to either be judged or put into any certain categorybox, especially when being judged by others who don't really know the person, people who are here for their 'own reason' or ones that feel they have more rights to say and do as they please without any regard for others thoughts,feelings or opinions, as they think that 'their' and only 'their' opinions are right and woe betide anyone that doesn't read things or gather the same point they have never mind the fact that most free thinking people will never be brain washed into their way of thinking. Shame as some are judging others wrongly and coming out with things that are totally unfounded, never the fact that they are way off the mark with some of their judgements!

Obviously i know this blog isn't about me! As i know who i am, what i've done and i know how i intend to continue. Might be an idea for others to accept that we all think different, act differently and have different opinions.

1:11 pm Wednesday, 6th May, 2015

Welcome to Blogland Crazzy, fasten your seat belt as it can be a bumpy ride at times lol. Good luck in your search, here's hoping your dreams come true and your enthusiasm never be snuffed out.

Dreams are what life is made of, everyone should try to hold onto and nurture their dreams, you never know, they may become reality one day :-) x

2:07 pm Wednesday, 6th May, 2015

'Your freedom ends where mine begins'
As does mine and that includes my 'freedom of thought' and my right to have my own opinion. Just saying

10:04 pm Wednesday, 6th May, 2015

Eh? Oh No G, tell me it's not so, please tell me your not packing up, moving on and leaving us!? Who on earth am i going to have a giggle in chat with about anything from goldfish to zipper accidents? img src="imagesadultemoticons009.gif"

8:35 am Thursday, 7th May, 2015

The last time I saw this much thinly veiled contempt for one another in a swingers meetup, it was me and an ex girlfriend having some enticingly destructive sex in the club.

Would never officially recommend mixing break-up sex with club events though :) Stay safe out there.

8:54 am Thursday, 7th May, 2015

Chocolate Panda: We have chatted in the chatroom so I will not say much but you know how much you mean to me and to many people on the site. We want you to be happy so you need to do what you need to do, darling :) I am still giving you the Panda though.

LIbraman: Nice to see you around. img src="imagesadultemoticons001.gif" Breaking up sex in a club events? Wow!

10:59 am Thursday, 7th May, 2015

I find this a very interesting topic as well as all the comments so I thought I'd throw in my tuppence worth.

I only joined this site about two weeks and have had some very interesting chats with people. I've met up with a few guys so far. However, I do wish I'd been extremely rude, listened to my instincts and not turned up to meet someone a few days. Online messages were absolutely fine. He was good looking in his pics and in person too. I'm not going into detail how he managed to completely turn me off but as I said, I wished I had stayed in and watched Hawaii Five O instead! Yes, I know, very rude to stand someone up. But my rather long winded point is this - sometimes, you just know that the initial online chemistry just isn't going to be there in person. Perhaps that is why some on here simply fail to turn up to a meet and, as someone earlier pointed out, don't want to sound rude so they don't say anything.

Someone else (I think EroticGoddess - apologies, but I don't have time to re-read all comments at the moment to double check, I should be doing something else!!) commented that there are some who do not admit even to themselves that they will not meet. I'm not going to say I disagree because that may be the case for some. Instead, I offer an alternative explanation - there may well be some who aren't yet ready to meet or haven't found someone they feel ready to take the plunge and meet with. Their "open to meet" door isn't welded shut. They simply need a lot of care, attention and a feeling of acceptance and no judgments no matter what happens before slowly opening up that door and finally coming out to play.

3:37 pm Thursday, 7th May, 2015

Turquoise....yes, it was me who said that. And you have hit what I was saying....the two are completely different. There are those who for whatever reason can't or won't meet. And that is their prerogative.

The other kind is the ones who say they'll meet, make plans, say and do all the right things (and over time, not just after a week or whatever, I'm talking months) then simply don't appear. Maybe it IS cold feet, maybe they just get off on playing with someone's mind, who knows? But I know of several times this has happened to either me or a friend. Extensive planning went into figuring out how and where to meet. Feelings were involved, and believe me, I am not a sucker to fall for anyone simply because he says "I think of nothing but you."

3:44 pm Thursday, 7th May, 2015

Thank you MrHappyScotland and SunShineGirlUK. I will continue with my dreams and keep hoping they will come true. Felt had to post because was felt like I was being judged before Id even got started. All I can say is everyone should be welcomed all the time and expectations shouldnt be created. No one is more of a person just because they find it easier to meet than others. And no one should be regarded as a 2nd Class member because they cant drop everything to meet.
Sorry rant over I'll go sit in a dark room and calm down.

5:01 pm Thursday, 7th May, 2015

I'll refrain for commenting though i would love to post in reply to your comment Turquoise but sadly i read and process your comment differently to some other bloggers, so my opinion would obviously be regarded as wrong, unworthy and appears not to be welcome.

You're welcome Crazzy, don't let judgemental people get you down, there are plenty of people that and accept everyone for who they are. No one is a '2nd class member', we are all just different in our own different ways.

5:03 pm Thursday, 7th May, 2015

that should read * people that do accept everyone

4:51 am Friday, 8th May, 2015

Light blue touchpaper and stand well clear Choco, as we all know you and naked flames are a lethal combination

6:59 am Friday, 8th May, 2015

This i a bit weird stream of post. I read FFP's blog to be one of curiosity. Some people interpret this to be judgemental and are the questioning or critisizing her as if she was suggesting the dreamers should be banned or should not be on this site. Seems to me a simple misinterpretation of the intend and clear questions at the beginning and makes me wonder why some people find that so difficult to understand. There is no attack on attack on,liberty and motives. Just curiosity. So dont kill the cat for curiosity. I am sure FFP mixes and represents curiosity aith the highest standards of respect.

9:48 am Friday, 8th May, 2015

Or then again Julian, it could be that you have have also misinterpreted the blog. It's all just a matter of opinion isn't it?

10:55 am Friday, 8th May, 2015

It seems to me this blog is about two camps: those of us who know Free well and understand what she meant, and keep trying to get that idea across, and those who don't know her at all, and continue to insist that she meant the opposite.

1:27 pm Friday, 8th May, 2015

Or 'two camps' that merely gatheredgainedprocured a different perspectiveviewpointopinion from one and other. I for one am not insisting anything, i had only given my opinion and thoughts on the blog topic as 'i' seen it. Meanwhile some are trying to insist that i totally ignore my own free thinking opinionmind and be brainwashed into accept theirs is the only right 'interpretation'.

1:59 pm Friday, 8th May, 2015

What was the writer hoping to gain from this blog? Did she not for 1 second think that some people who might see themselves falling within the dreamers boundaries could possibly feel upset or offended? If you blog you must be prepared that not everyone will agree with your opinion. Also that she is talking about members as if they wouldn't be reading this & is discussing these dreamers with the non-dreamers could also be seen as snobbish at best!
Every single person is unique in their wants, needs and trust levels. Some take longer & need to be more certain than others. If that is the case why criticise them or talk about them as if they are not there? If you get fed up just move along, there is plenty more fish in the sea for everyone. No need for potential partners to be excluded because they don't meet someone's high standards & time scale.
If anyone seeks my opinion it is that the blog is extremely naive and the best thing that can be gained from it is that writers may think twice before discussing other members in future.

6:23 pm Friday, 8th May, 2015

Seriously? What on earth is happening here?
It's like witnessing a group of silly teenagers in a playground.

Be a little slower to criticise and possibly a little faster to have a go at writing a blog yourselves.

11:36 pm Friday, 8th May, 2015

Seems to me that everyone is entitled to base an opinion on misreading yet being judgemental and doubting intentions of others is not a logical cause from. Seems that those who have problems with ffp's blog feel denied of their right to an opinion which to me isnt implied anywhere not even in between the lines. Simple curiosity about what drives people seems to be the start of this blog, simplistic dismisivemess the answer by some. Strange then to claim freedom of thought, a very typical idiosyncracy.

11:47 pm Friday, 8th May, 2015

And more plain some responses to me seem amazingly misplaces, lacking a burd's eye view or are too happily scots responses to an alleged non existant monster.

2:30 am Saturday, 9th May, 2015

We have been disapointed many times. Right up to the day and they no show. WHY?

9:57 am Saturday, 9th May, 2015

Well pur psavour and liketowatch....very eloquent

And hard to understand why that is so difficult to understand by others..almost feel tempted to write a blog about it,,:-)

5:59 pm Saturday, 9th May, 2015

There seem to be some that feel the need to cast aspersions as to others motives, or have decided that 'they are right' and no other interpretation is valid or could possibly be taken from the blog. In truth don't care a jot as it's only a bloody blog.

Those who have met me obviously know i'm no 'dreamer' and that i 'turn up' when i arrange a meet as i'd never string anyone along, tie them up maybe mwahaha.

Lostman in my opinion is right 'It is a blog open to different interpretations' as is any blog and any topic.
My opinions are mine, some will agree while others won't and that's thir right. It is all a matter of opinion and everyone is entitled to have their own opinion.

6:23 pm Saturday, 9th May, 2015

Swing2us
It is what it is " A SEX SITE ",
People will come on and do what they please, meet, chat, make friends, find a fcuk buddy, even be a time waster, so ! If it bothers you that much what people think leave, we all learn by our mistakes. And nope I'm not sorry if this reply is blunt and straight to the point x

11:28 pm Saturday, 9th May, 2015

Sorry psavour but I'm a bit confused. You agree that this blog is open to interpretation then have a go at people who inflict pain and suffering "to get themselves off" & slag them off for good measure. Even after the writer has said she isnt talking about "the timewasters, fake people, or even 'key warriors' " . This leaves people who either need to take their time or find it hard to build trust or even find it difficult to arrange a meet due to their circumstances....... Unless you are including thse same people in with the "sub-life"???
How long do you have to be talking or arranging things before someone is classified as a "sub-life"? Is there a time limit?

Methinks he doth protest too much!

12:31 am Sunday, 10th May, 2015

Heck if that is the case Crazzy that must mean i'd be classed as being in with the 'sub-life' if there is a certain time requirement within starting to chat to meeting. I for one have never rushed into anything. I have met people from this site, but never ever would i rush to meet in any circumstances, as one likes to be a sure as one can be that i'm not meeting a total screwball, luckily for me that paid off and they were true gentlemen. :-) x

2:38 pm Sunday, 10th May, 2015

Wul haud ma wheesht fae ee'r on in as i've hud a belly fu the noo. Efter aw there ur two sides te every coin!! You cun huv the heid but, mibby a wee idea te remember some o thum may huv the tail is all i'll say on the matter. It's a gie dreich day when hings turn soor, bit it's a lang road withoot a turn.

2:45 pm Sunday, 10th May, 2015

Heck just surprised that the fairy didn't sprinkle any ***** over the above, makes a lovely change, though it's early days yet so it may not stay poot lol :-) x

3:33 pm Sunday, 10th May, 2015

Freeforpleasure: Yes although I don't think either of us wanted to admit it was break-up sex at the time lol just two people being young and learning from mistakes.

5:10 pm Sunday, 10th May, 2015

Had been half hoping you would have posted in Scottish Gaelic Sunshine,as i know you know some,really would have left most if not all stumped.

9:34 pm Sunday, 10th May, 2015

Yeh!!! Even Scottish Gaelic is permitted, thank you Admin, i do promise the above post is all above board and polite :-) x

9:54 pm Sunday, 10th May, 2015

Really!? Take that back, as obviously Gaelic isn't permitted after all
Was only saying -

A little MrH and You are welcome Psavour in Scottish :'-(

12:28 am Monday, 11th May, 2015

Shame Sunshine as i do like the Scottish tongue!!

12:29 am Monday, 11th May, 2015

Hell i didn't mean that, that way, No pun was intended!!

3:18 am Sunday, 30th August, 2015

I think that for people who lack in social graces, it is easy to be confident while sitting behind a keyboard. None of their personality is on display or idiosyncrasies that they lack confidence in while in public. They can articulate what they say through careful thought before typing and respond in a comfortable, safe, secure and well known environment when at their computer, thus allowing their natural likeable self to be partially seen. They are not being self aware and are operating outside of the personal insecurities that plague them when in public in the real world. To sum this up, I think that their problems are environmental issues, the difference between the safety of a well known and secure place where they feel confident, verses the dangers of being in the general public where they think all their I securities are on display to the world and insecurities can be debilitating. My thoughts anyway.

3:10 pm Sunday, 30th August, 2015

Mags, I never thought of this carefully. However, as you said these r the people who want to satisfy what they need and they do by making promises and pretending to be someone they are not. I was indeed a victim and I have to say it is not a good feeling to know someone just lied so much. Therefore, honesty is the key word again. Thanks for your response and I hope you also find what u expect. :)

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